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gingrich had some folks not too fond of him within his own conference. do you think john boehner has been held hostage by 20 or so members that will come out against him heavily if he backed anything that looked like a tax increase? >> first up, this is an unusual situation. we have a situation where you've got, you know, looming tax increases, obviously the significant cut to defense and now you've got geithner describing where the debt ceiling is about to come into play december 31st. so you've got a pressurized situation that quite frankly is going to require some time to think through. so, you know, inge everybody is engaged here. but the problems are pretty significant. going back to this, remember when the speaker did that vote, he got over 90% of his conference behind him. the dynamic that exited here was that the democrats said we're going to make this a party line vote. if you can get it over the finish line with just republican votes, great. but you're not going to have any of ours. i think that goes to the dysfunctional nature of what we're de
gingrich had some folks not too fond of him within his own conference. do you think john boehner has been held hostage by 20 or so members that will come out against him heavily if he backed anything that looked like a tax increase? >> first up, this is an unusual situation. we have a situation where you've got, you know, looming tax increases, obviously the significant cut to defense and now you've got geithner describing where the debt ceiling is about to come into play december 31st....
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message to newt gingrich, no hold's bar. that was my addendum. the angry teddy bear, newt gingrich. the angry teddy bear, the angry attack muffin. i noticed you liked to call him that as well. >> i stole that from you. >> you are the creator of the angry teddy bear comparison with newt gingrich. >> for that, i expect to be charging more higher rates in the coming months. >> as the primaries produce new names, so did our show. >> the effortlessly elegant jonathan capehart. eternally buzzy ben smith. ari melber. steve. queen bee and managing editor of the sunday morning himself. favorite import from the uk, maggie haberman. michael steele, notorious as we call you here. thank you for your time. indubable. chris solizza. >> i assume they are compliments. >> they are $5 compliments. >> emmy darling. emmy darling. the man with the golden throat. cnbc guru john harwood. our favorite wonk of them all. president obama's money bunny bill burton. >> money bunny? >> given the hop to it attitude. current editor of "now." >> we want to make you the official cultural ambassador of the program now
message to newt gingrich, no hold's bar. that was my addendum. the angry teddy bear, newt gingrich. the angry teddy bear, the angry attack muffin. i noticed you liked to call him that as well. >> i stole that from you. >> you are the creator of the angry teddy bear comparison with newt gingrich. >> for that, i expect to be charging more higher rates in the coming months. >> as the primaries produce new names, so did our show. >> the effortlessly elegant jonathan...
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this is our friend newt gingrich. this is the guy who ran for president saying a noun, a verb and food stamp. in january, this is newt gingrich discussing his plan for our children. >> you could take one janitor and hire 37 kids to work in the school for the price of one janitor. those 30 kids would be a lot less likely to drop out, have money in their pocket, learn to show up for work. >> this is his plan for american children. cheap janitorial work. is this racist? one race card, two race cards, not sure, jaime? >> only because as a white guy, i'm trying to absol b my -- he probably meant it as racist. >> for people and people of color. >> we needed a poverty card to do an intersection. >> i'm going with he's racist because he said palestinians don't exist. >> i keep cheating looking at elan's card. >> i didn't call racist, i called a-hole. he's an a-hole. it's ridiculous what he was requesting, but i don't feel as if it was racist. there's so many other things. completely protected in his bubble of wealth and privi
this is our friend newt gingrich. this is the guy who ran for president saying a noun, a verb and food stamp. in january, this is newt gingrich discussing his plan for our children. >> you could take one janitor and hire 37 kids to work in the school for the price of one janitor. those 30 kids would be a lot less likely to drop out, have money in their pocket, learn to show up for work. >> this is his plan for american children. cheap janitorial work. is this racist? one race card,...
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seems redundant. >>> next newt gingrich gets outshined by the sound of his own cell phone. he was talking about what went so wrong for republicans this past election when this happened. >> the romney campaign was wrong. they thought they were going to win. if you talk to them at 5:00 on election day they would have told he they honestly believed they were going to win. i also think that -- the country is going to vote to be in a different position and i think we have got to understand that -- >> is that a ring tone? what ring tone was that? >> i have two ring tones. i have dancing queen is my general ring tone for most people and then my wife's ring tone is super trooper. we stay with abba all the way through. >> well, that was, in fact, dancing queen. anyway, it's not the first time abb a has caused newt to pause from politics. >> immediately allow for implementation that day of the pipeline. i had to cut off my son. that was dancing queen. i didn't have to answer it. if it's super trooper, it's my wife, i have to answer. i should have turned the phone off. >>. >>> next, w
seems redundant. >>> next newt gingrich gets outshined by the sound of his own cell phone. he was talking about what went so wrong for republicans this past election when this happened. >> the romney campaign was wrong. they thought they were going to win. if you talk to them at 5:00 on election day they would have told he they honestly believed they were going to win. i also think that -- the country is going to vote to be in a different position and i think we have got to...
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. >> coming up later, are we on the verge of gun control, first, nut gingrich things he can do a couple things better that amitt romney. and that means running for president. my waist was on. but since i've been on alli, am i on this one? nope. am i on this one? no, no, no, no, no. i am on this one. [ male announcer ] for every 2 pounds you lose through diet and exercise alli can help you lose one more by blocking some of the fat you eat. simple. effective. belt-friendly. let's fight fat with alli. have a healthier holiday at letsfightholidayfat.com. when you give a child a toy, it has to work. ♪ make just one someone happy and when it's a toys for tots child, well, what could be more important? so this year, every hasbro toy donated to toys for tots will be powered by duracell. happy holidays. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. >> let's take a visit to the political playground, newt gingrich blames the republican party for fostering a corrosive culture that pushed romney as a candidate. he said that he and rick perry would done better running against obama. a new station fin
. >> coming up later, are we on the verge of gun control, first, nut gingrich things he can do a couple things better that amitt romney. and that means running for president. my waist was on. but since i've been on alli, am i on this one? nope. am i on this one? no, no, no, no, no. i am on this one. [ male announcer ] for every 2 pounds you lose through diet and exercise alli can help you lose one more by blocking some of the fat you eat. simple. effective. belt-friendly. let's fight fat...
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. >> mitt romney's new campaign message to newt gingrich, no holds barred. my meow. >> the angry teddy bear. newt gingrich, the angry teddy bear in the room. >> the angry teddy bear as i like to call him and you like to call him. >> i've stolen that from you. you are the creator of the angry teddy bear with newt gingrich. >> and for that, i expect to be charging higher rates in the coming months. >> yeah. lost your appetite for romance? and your mood is on its way down. you might not just be getting older. you might have a treatable condition called low testosterone or low t. millions of men, forty-five or older, may have low t. so talk to your doctor about low t. hey, michael! [ male announcer ] and step out of the shadows. hi! how are you? [ male announcer ] learn more at isitlowt.com. [ laughs ] hey! >>> i have faced 386 filibusters. lyndon johnson, won. the american people know, democrats and republicans that this place isn't working and that there needs to be changes so that we can proceed to get legislation passed the. >> two key priorities for preside
. >> mitt romney's new campaign message to newt gingrich, no holds barred. my meow. >> the angry teddy bear. newt gingrich, the angry teddy bear in the room. >> the angry teddy bear as i like to call him and you like to call him. >> i've stolen that from you. you are the creator of the angry teddy bear with newt gingrich. >> and for that, i expect to be charging higher rates in the coming months. >> yeah. lost your appetite for romance? and your mood is on...
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he has the advantage here, and the polls indicate as with bill clinton in the showdown with newt gingrich and the shutdown of the '90s the public blames the republicans when this happens when over on the house side, you have so many republicans who are so far right and worried about somebody farther right running against them in primaries that john boehner is having a hard time to get them to agree to his packages like plan b out here. we don't know how much out here in the public things have changed since last week, but it seemed like president obama was saying something that he was planning to say if it came down to the last few days. >> joy, is this the same kind of negotiation we saw in the first term? >> well, richard, one of the things that you didn't see the president do is to offer a new plan and he is laying the debacle at the feet squarely on congress and for the all to see where the dysfunction lies and the president helped himself by making offers that even his base was uncomfortable with, because it is fair to everyone that he is reasonable and trying to make the offers and t
he has the advantage here, and the polls indicate as with bill clinton in the showdown with newt gingrich and the shutdown of the '90s the public blames the republicans when this happens when over on the house side, you have so many republicans who are so far right and worried about somebody farther right running against them in primaries that john boehner is having a hard time to get them to agree to his packages like plan b out here. we don't know how much out here in the public things have...
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as you said, ask newt gingrich. ask the guys who ran against him in the '08 primary, giuliani, ron paul and the others, if this guy didn't want to be president. he pushed ron paul's delegate out of congress to push him out of the nomination. he did everything he could to become president and he failed. >> richard, does no one in the romney family have any kind of ear for what honesty sounds like? >> well, i'm not sure if they know what humanity looks like. you know, they said the romney sons say they cannot think of a poe person who wants to be president less than their father. i suggest they meet more people, because there's a lot of people who don't want to be president, and here's the paradox that runs through the entire romney campaign, which is you had somebody desperate to be president and who was deathly uncomfortable to be a candidate for president. you can't message over it, it's not about the 370,000 votes they lament were not theirs and would have won them the election. only 370,000 votes. if you're al go
as you said, ask newt gingrich. ask the guys who ran against him in the '08 primary, giuliani, ron paul and the others, if this guy didn't want to be president. he pushed ron paul's delegate out of congress to push him out of the nomination. he did everything he could to become president and he failed. >> richard, does no one in the romney family have any kind of ear for what honesty sounds like? >> well, i'm not sure if they know what humanity looks like. you know, they said the...
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and adviser to newt gingrich's 2012 presidential campaign. i want to pick up where we left off last hour. gentlemen, you were making a point. my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john boehner. at one point they were 400 million apart and it was one whole heck of a lot of money and what happened? i think what happened is that the president decided that he was going to up the number from 800 to $1.2 trillion worth of revenue that he wanted. >> that took speaker boehner to the point where he didn't think they would go through the house and things began to fall apart at that point and they ended up going with this commission and i think it was frustrating to both men. my sense is they know the speaker was trying to get there and my sense from talking to the speaker's staff that the president wanted to get there. this came up and it caused them to fall apart. >> is that how you understand it it went down? >> i'm not sure and i'm not sure it will end at some time. they didn't reach agreement and mitch mcconnell had
and adviser to newt gingrich's 2012 presidential campaign. i want to pick up where we left off last hour. gentlemen, you were making a point. my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john boehner. at one point they were 400 million apart and it was one whole heck of a lot of money and what happened? i think what happened is that the president decided that he was going to up the number from 800 to $1.2 trillion worth of revenue that he wanted. >> that took...
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david was an aide to white house newt gingrich and senior adviser to gingrich's 2012 presidential campaign. good afternoon toeth bo of you. >> good afternoon. >> if congress can't come up with a bipart plan, senator reid said he will put to work the president's plan for tax cuts for those earning less than $250,000 a year and renew unemployment benefits. is that outcome a vote on the president's smaller deal? is that a victory for the president and democrats? >> here's the problem. >> you don't know whether that can pass the house and the spooker said yes, he would bring it up, but the problem in the house is that the issue of sikh sequestration because if i understand correctly what the republicans are saying is that they will not waive sequestration unless they're offsetting budget cuts and that's $112 million and i don't know whether that could pass the house. i think it would have a chance of passing the senate. i hope they can negotiate something and i think that's the best outcome here and they ought to meet in the middle some place and raise the limit to $500,000 before you have to
david was an aide to white house newt gingrich and senior adviser to gingrich's 2012 presidential campaign. good afternoon toeth bo of you. >> good afternoon. >> if congress can't come up with a bipart plan, senator reid said he will put to work the president's plan for tax cuts for those earning less than $250,000 a year and renew unemployment benefits. is that outcome a vote on the president's smaller deal? is that a victory for the president and democrats? >> here's the...
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newt gingrich. he said the republican party right now could not beat hillary clinton in 2016, but we're hearing the beginnings of the efforts to discredit her as a potential candidate. newt gingrich weighing in on hillary clinton. what about that one? >> is this going to come at the end of his second term with a moon colony? you know. newt gingrich coming to hillary clinton's defense, i suppose we shouldn't be surprised. i'm still going to have a head-wrenching moment because wasn't he the guy who had something to do with impeachment? it's nice that he's gone back to his olympian position of musing on the state of politics. he couldn't really predict his own politics in his own primary very well. it's true that people might try and throw rocks at her. i just think stepping out of the washington fray means that she doesn't need to deal with this right now. so in terms of her own position, it's not like she's a nominee. she has to deal with congress. she doesn't even -- she managed to dodge the whole
newt gingrich. he said the republican party right now could not beat hillary clinton in 2016, but we're hearing the beginnings of the efforts to discredit her as a potential candidate. newt gingrich weighing in on hillary clinton. what about that one? >> is this going to come at the end of his second term with a moon colony? you know. newt gingrich coming to hillary clinton's defense, i suppose we shouldn't be surprised. i'm still going to have a head-wrenching moment because wasn't he...
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the irony to that of course is newt gingrich initiated this revolution in which he changed the culture to be very deferential to the leader. all of the sudden the house leadership was controlling who was the committee. he took the power out of the committee chairs and centralized it in the speakers -- in the minority leader's offices and the speaker's offices. and all of that really did change the way the entire house worked to make it more like the nancy pelosi house that we saw in the congress before it was taken over by boehner. >> salute and you do what you're told. >> party line votes. if you need to deliver the votes, you can. now it's coming apart there is no road map or diagram or architect in place for what the next iteration of what the house culture looks like from a parliamentary perspective. >> there is no -- one of the things that i think is most important about that is that there is no credibility that can be held by any member of the house that would give them sway over other members of the house on the republican side. but there is also nobody in the conservative movem
the irony to that of course is newt gingrich initiated this revolution in which he changed the culture to be very deferential to the leader. all of the sudden the house leadership was controlling who was the committee. he took the power out of the committee chairs and centralized it in the speakers -- in the minority leader's offices and the speaker's offices. and all of that really did change the way the entire house worked to make it more like the nancy pelosi house that we saw in the...
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he has the advantage here, the polls indicate, as with bill clinton and this showdown with newt gingrich. the public tends to blame republicans when this happens. especially now at a time when over on the house side, you have so many republicans who are so far right and worry about farther right running against them in primary, that john boehner's plan last week. we don't know how much has changed since last week. but president obama sounded like he was saying something that he had been planning to say all along. >> it's almost like the white house is stepping out. i think we have some sound from mitch mcconnell talking about the next steps. let's see if we can run that out. >> we had a good meeting at the white house. we are engaged in discussions, if majority leader, myself and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. >> i'm going to do everything that i can, i'm confident senator mcconnell will do the same. but everybody, this is -- whatever w
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. >> no television -- few television moments of 2012 compared to krystal reading the newt gingrich press release which was amazing. they'll study it on "inside the actor's studio" for years to come. you read it better than he could have done and that's saying a lot. >> thank you. i'm proud. i am proud of that moment. i think i had some dramatic flourishes that i will -- >> right. standing the tortured metaphor, one last time. you don't need to look in to a chrrystal ball. "the cycle" loved one person above all, so here "the cycle's" person of the year is jennifer granholm. >> in ohio! 150,000 jobs! and in the great state of michigan! 211,000 good-paying, american jobs! all across america! manufacturing is rebounding! why? excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs f
. >> no television -- few television moments of 2012 compared to krystal reading the newt gingrich press release which was amazing. they'll study it on "inside the actor's studio" for years to come. you read it better than he could have done and that's saying a lot. >> thank you. i'm proud. i am proud of that moment. i think i had some dramatic flourishes that i will -- >> right. standing the tortured metaphor, one last time. you don't need to look in to a chrrystal...
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he has the advantage here, the polls indicate, as with bill clinton and this showdown with newt gingrich. the public tends to blame republicans when this happens. especially now at a time when over on the house side, you have so many republicans who are so far right and worry about farther right running against them in primary, that john boehner's plan last week. we don't know how much has changed since last week. but president obama sounded like he was saying something that he had been planning to say a all along. >> take a listen to the president's tone and tell me if you think somebody has changed. >> ordinary folks. they do their jobs. they meet deadlines. they sit down and they discuss things and then things happen. if there are disagreements, they sort through the disagreements. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. >> joy, is this is same kind of negotiator we saw in the first term? >> i'll tell you, richard. one of the things you notice that the president didn't do was offer any new plan. i think he's laying this debacle squarely
he has the advantage here, the polls indicate, as with bill clinton and this showdown with newt gingrich. the public tends to blame republicans when this happens. especially now at a time when over on the house side, you have so many republicans who are so far right and worry about farther right running against them in primary, that john boehner's plan last week. we don't know how much has changed since last week. but president obama sounded like he was saying something that he had been...
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we didn't know rick perry forgetting to name some -- and newt gingrich's press release and any number of comments from him. >> but there's more. let's take a look at what i'm going to call the most monumental piece of found that didn't make it into that montage. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims. and so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. >> i didn't want to disappoint. >> we've got to see that. i'm not sure and i wonder what jimmy would say about this, i don't know if that's the moment when the election was lost. i think when romney said self-deport and offended millions of hispanics and losing that community for good, that is the moment that it was truly lost. after that the ship had already sailed. we were in garbage time and didn't realize it. >> jimmy, let's not forget the war on women which was all in our heads, we had todd akin, rus
we didn't know rick perry forgetting to name some -- and newt gingrich's press release and any number of comments from him. >> but there's more. let's take a look at what i'm going to call the most monumental piece of found that didn't make it into that montage. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims. and so my job is not to worry about those...
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when the monument went up there was that moment -- newt gingrich and robert dole are all saying yes, this was a great president. i think now, too, we're looking at ronald reagan, those of us who are democrats or liberal, and able to look back at him and say the same thing. so somewhere in the middle come an awareness of what makes a strong president. >> and the first person who unld that was ronald reagan. we talked about a rendezvous with destiny, a time for choosing, his speech in 1964 that launched his national career, was rife with fdr phraseology. >> from his acceptance speech. yeah. and he was for him originally. >> absolutely. >> let's go to john meacham, who's going to select four presidents that he's written about. brought to you by his -- >> i am -- no, no, no. i'm for good hair presidents. >> oh, good. >> andrew jackson. >> big hair. >> i believe -- my test was existential crises. i think andrew jackson was president at a time when popular democracy could have gone one way or the other and also really good hair. i think president -- fdr is a natural, not such good hair. bu
when the monument went up there was that moment -- newt gingrich and robert dole are all saying yes, this was a great president. i think now, too, we're looking at ronald reagan, those of us who are democrats or liberal, and able to look back at him and say the same thing. so somewhere in the middle come an awareness of what makes a strong president. >> and the first person who unld that was ronald reagan. we talked about a rendezvous with destiny, a time for choosing, his speech in 1964...
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guys like my dad do not campbell on candidates like michele bachmann or newt gingrich. guys like my dad who compare to joseph stalin or adolf hitter and guys like my dad don't cozy up to texas governors who brag about seceding from the union or call social security unconstitutional. crazy didn't win, joe, but it also pulled down the nominee. >> the nominee wasn't willing to stand up to crazy. >> early on. >> there were so many times he could have turned, mike barnicle, to michele bachmann, let's say. who said something outrageous. wait a second. i'm a conservative. are you kidding me? to herman cain -- >> sarah palin. >> and all of these 0 other things that were going on, crazy never wins. but we learned another thing. you'd better stand up to crazy if you want to win in bucks coun county, pennsylvania, win in the i-4 corridor, if you want to win in the suburbs, if you want to win in the places where elections are actually won. >> well, i would ask you, john heilemann, as a key observer of the electoral scene, was not the die cast for mitt romney and perhaps, you know,
guys like my dad do not campbell on candidates like michele bachmann or newt gingrich. guys like my dad who compare to joseph stalin or adolf hitter and guys like my dad don't cozy up to texas governors who brag about seceding from the union or call social security unconstitutional. crazy didn't win, joe, but it also pulled down the nominee. >> the nominee wasn't willing to stand up to crazy. >> early on. >> there were so many times he could have turned, mike barnicle, to...
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guys like my dad do not gamble on candidates like michele bachmann or newt gingrich. guys like my dad tune out politicians who compare opponents to joseph stalin or adolf hitler. and guys like my dad don't cozy up to texas governor who is brag about seceding from the union or call social security unconstitutional." crazy didn't win, joe, but it also pulled down nominee, i believe. >> because the nominee wasn't willing to stand up to crazy. >> early on. >> and there was so -- early on. there were so many times, he could have just turned, mike barnicle, to michele bachmann, let's say, who said something outrageous and go, wait a second, i'm a conservative, are you kidding me? or to herman cain, or you know, when sarah palin was riding around, calling barack obama a socialist, bordering on a communist. and all these other things that were going on. crazy never wins, but we learned another thing. you better stand up to crazy, if you want to win in bucks county, pennsylvania. if you want to win in the i-4 corridor. if you want to win in the sub b suburbs of columbus, ohio.
guys like my dad do not gamble on candidates like michele bachmann or newt gingrich. guys like my dad tune out politicians who compare opponents to joseph stalin or adolf hitler. and guys like my dad don't cozy up to texas governor who is brag about seceding from the union or call social security unconstitutional." crazy didn't win, joe, but it also pulled down nominee, i believe. >> because the nominee wasn't willing to stand up to crazy. >> early on. >> and there was so...
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if you look at the great negotiations between presidents and speakers, even bill clinton and newt gingrich. they were coming together on a regular basis. they had a personal relationship. if ronald reagan had the upper hand saying mr. speaker i need you on this, what do i need to do for you to get a win? let's start there. obama says i don't have to negotiate with anybody. i won. that sp not the way to get a deal done. >> i seem to remember president george w. bush saying i have political capital and i intend to use it. >> bottom line is for two years i was a floor director for the house whip and my job was to get votes to pass legislation. i remember when speaker pelosi had the bill to fund the iraq war. our democratic caucus wasn't in support of that. nonetheless she put a bill on the floor where we had to fund the iraq floor. she did it because it was in the best interest of the american people. at the end of the day speaker boehner who is the speaker of the whole house has to do what is in the best interest and let the will of the house take its call. he has to move forward on this. yo
if you look at the great negotiations between presidents and speakers, even bill clinton and newt gingrich. they were coming together on a regular basis. they had a personal relationship. if ronald reagan had the upper hand saying mr. speaker i need you on this, what do i need to do for you to get a win? let's start there. obama says i don't have to negotiate with anybody. i won. that sp not the way to get a deal done. >> i seem to remember president george w. bush saying i have political...
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there's incredible footage of gingrich and saying this and i look back to the 1990's and not only did we have the longest sustained period of the growth in the postwar era we had shrinking deficits. >> but the reason for that was because of tdot com boom. >> but the claim was that raising these rates would make it impossible for the economy to grow. >> the problem is all we're talking about is raising taxes. this is a political pro if i for the president. we're not talking about the real issue of cutting spending. why is that not part of the conversation? >> i'm curious as to what we could cut spending. at the in a moment nondefense discretionary spending is almost cut to the bone. any more and you're knocking millions of kids and old people off of programs and resources. when it comes to entitlements we've already cut under the affordable care act, 7 to $10 billion from medicare and we'll probably see social security cuts, unfortunately. everywhere we can cut we're making cuts. and still, the deficit isn't going down substantially so i'm interested in where this spending problem exis
there's incredible footage of gingrich and saying this and i look back to the 1990's and not only did we have the longest sustained period of the growth in the postwar era we had shrinking deficits. >> but the reason for that was because of tdot com boom. >> but the claim was that raising these rates would make it impossible for the economy to grow. >> the problem is all we're talking about is raising taxes. this is a political pro if i for the president. we're not talking...